Episode 22

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20th Apr 2021

Finding New Life in the Quiet with A’magine Nation

A'magine is back! Beloved listeners, we hope you're familiar with this week's guest at this point, and if you're not, there is a rich archive of A'magine (formerly Amy Jo Goddard) episodes on Medicine Caller and its sister podcast, Vagina Talks. This time A'Magine comes to us at a transition moment in her career and life. She and Sophia are about to teach the last Fire Woman Retreat, and her 25 year teaching career is about to majorly shift. After a year of this global shutdown, how are you changed? How are you continuing to change? If you spend time with yourself in the true, deep quiet, what new parts of yourself can you discover? Enjoy this episode as two old and dear friends find comfort in each other with massive change on the horizon.

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Fire Woman Retreat is a unique four-day event designed to give us space to witness, explore and revel in our sexual natures, and to help women and non-binary folks break through the things that hold us back from being who we really are as sexual people.

The theme for this virtual event is Spiritual Transformation, Sexual Initiation & Power. The retreat is May 13-16 2021, so sign up now! SophiaWiseOne.com/FireWoman

What to join for the free Opening Ceremony? You can do that by scrolling down on the page and signing up there!

Fire Woman Retreat is unlike any other event: it is a combination of rich teachings, transformational healing, powerful rituals and group witnessing that allows for big personal & collective breakthroughs.

Find A'magine's books, film updates, and seemingly endless resources at AmyJoGoddard.com

For more resources for finding calm in these stressful times and to never miss another live recording you can follow Sophia on Facebook by searching Sophia Wise One or on Instagram @Sophia Wise One

As always you can go to SophiaWiseOne.com for more information about the show, Reports from the Spider Queen, to preorder the I Love My Life Card Game and Oracle Deck, to join Sophia’s email list, and so much more!

“I am Sophia Wise One: Daughter of the Wind. I am calling you to Rise Up, Rise Up, Rise Up. Rise up and take your place.”

This content is not intended to be a substitute for professional medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Always seek the advice of your physician or other qualified health providers with any questions you may have regarding a medical condition.


Sophia Wise One 00:01

Hello. Have you been hearing me talk about the fire woman retreat? If you haven't, let's talk about it now. And if you have and you haven't checked it out, just go check it out. Please, please, please, please, I wouldn't be talking about this much if I didn't really think it was at least worth a consideration of your alignment. If you are looking to deepen your consciousness into your body and this retreats theme is spiritual transformation, sexual initiation, and power. It's an incredibly intense time right now, there's so much going on. And that intensity is something that can take us down or that we can ride and it can take us through and being connected to our pleasure, being supported in community to be re-educated around our pleasure, our spirituality, our sexuality is immeasurably valuable. It's so valuable. I'm so grateful that there are spaces where we are doing this with one another. We're, we're healing, we're growing, we're learning. So I'm going to be there. I will be contributing teaching, I will be there participating, and I would love to take this journey with you. So if you haven't checked it out, please check it out now. And look forward to seeing you there. Alright, blink is in the show notes. Thank you love and welcome to Medicine Caller podcast. I want to invite you another layer deeper into the temple, we have a Patreon. And I would love for you to check it out. There are layers of support and nourishment for people calling medicine and for people restoring the temple, people healing together, I would love for you to come support this podcast and be supported in even more ways. To all my patreon members, thank you. We are in this together. I appreciate you. I'm grateful. We'll talk soon. Consider yourself invited. Check it out and I invite you to join. Let's get on with the show. Intimate, wise, and healing conversations with the people who are carrying us through this time of true transformation, and complete rebirth. Welcome to Medicine Caller. We're visionaries share the real, the raw, the good, and the holy. I am your host, Sophia Wise One. Let's try.

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Sophia Wise One 03:14

Welcome beloved listener, I'm so grateful to have you join me here. Welcome to Medicine Caller. They call me Sophia Wise One and I'm your host at the moment here playing the role leaning into the moment and opportunity to join you wherever you are. Before we get started any farther, I want to invite you to take a breath, to give yourself permission to receive what you need and this time you are pushing play, you're arriving in this moment for something, there's some part of you that's curious, exploring, healing, learning, communing, and my blessing is that you find it and I invite you to give yourself permission to experience it. So if it is a word out of my mouth, or my awesome guest's mouth, if it is an insight on your own, if it is a cloud passing by, that it may come to you in this time together. It's been a minute since we were together and I just want to say I have been in baby land with babies, babies, babies and receiving a lot of initiation and medicine of my own self and more than anything at the moment, really appreciating the healing of, of my heart. Really just profound healing and a great awakening. I feel very awakened into life. I have a guest today who, if you are one of my darling listeners who journeys with me, then you know her and we are welcoming back, my beloved, our beloved, imagine and you may know imagine, imagination, our darling precious powerhouse today. Previously, you may have known her as Amy Jo Goddard and she is an incredible teacher facilitator, educator, and thought leader in this world of visionary human, author of two incredible books, the first one being lesbian sex secrets for men, and the second being woman on fire, nine elements to wake up your erotic energy, personal power, and sexual intelligence. And I'm, she's been working for over a decade, is that correct? On at your cervix?

Amy Jo Goddard 05:24

Oh, it's like 16 years but who's counting? 

Sophia Wise One 05:27

Who's counting? Who's counting? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Right. Nobody's counting, I'm not counting, you're not counting.

Amy Jo Goddard 05:32

I have a teenager. I have a teenager.

Sophia Wise One 05:37

Rooted deeply in her sexual education, medical evaluation education, re-educating and bringing to light some very important and serious notions and issues around how the medical system interacts with our and educates around our cervix. So that film is up and coming. I don't even think I said that, what I'm talking about her she's been working on an incredibly essential, important powerful film, and that is called at your cervix. She is a film writer and author of poet, a dreamer of medicine caller, a leader, she's all those things and so much more. She's my friend. She's a beloved, she is my teacher, she is my companion. And I am so grateful to have you on the show again. Welcome, Imagine.

Amy Jo Goddard 06:21

I love being on your show. Whatever so I mean, you have a lots of them.

Sophia Wise One 06:28

All the shows. I love having you in all the shows.

Amy Jo Goddard 06:30

When all done and we never quite know what's going to happen. So I like that. Keep it interesting.

Sophia Wise One 06:36

I think I remember the first time I had you on, you were like, "Whoa, your questions. This conversation was different than a lot of the same old same old conversations." I was like, yeah, yeah, yeah. I love that feedback. I love it when my guess is like that.

Amy Jo Goddard 06:48

Because that was, you know, that was like in a couple of years after my book had come out and so I had done so many interviews, where I was asked to, like tell us about the nine elements. And I'm like, "Well, I can do that. You can read the book." No, I mean, it's totally fine to talk about it but obviously, it's a huge part of my work. But I did get a lot of very predictable, traditional questioning. So yes, when someone shows up with a different kind of inquiry, you know, I'm always, I'm always interested in that, you know, I think like the people that I follow, the people I'm most interested in as thinkers, as leaders, as teachers are the people that think outside of the box and don't, don't just follow the script. So thank you for not following the script.

Sophia Wise One 07:43

Hey. You know what? When I tried to follow the script, I lost my mind. And anytime I've tried to follow my script, it's ended up really, I have not gotten positive feedback on script following. It turns out so.

Amy Jo Goddard 07:57

I've been trying to make a film based on the script for...

Sophia Wise One 08:03

Excuse me...

Amy Jo Goddard 08:05

So yeah. It's not the easiest thing to do.

Sophia Wise One 08:09

Yeah. I, you know, yeah. Exactly. At this, I actually think is very related I wanted to talk about this pivot. This is, so many people right now, as medicine callers, so many people right now are having this experience of, you know, we've gone into this major cocoon, the world has woken up with a lot of us who were already kind of, I don't know, to use these terms like lightly or loosely in some way, like already woke, right? Like we were like walking the awakened path. We were in the process of guiding people through awakening, and then a lot of people, a lot of people were going, "Wait, I, I whoa, wait, what?" You know, and I think it really moved everybody like forward 10 notches, right? Like whoosh. And so everybody is kind of coming out in this next phase, this next evolution of self and you know, we came together because I was, I needed to bridge all my consciousness work into my sexuality because I had this break. I had this dissociative break, once I literally got turned on, all my skills went out the window, and I needed a safe space to to bridge all of this consciousness into my, into my sexuality of sexual consciousness, and to bring, bring my ritual into practice there. So it's, I came to you saying, "Hey, teach, can you teach me?" Right? And that was years ago now and bridging that and coming into that and you are now taking this incredible pivot and I think it's just incredible that you are kind of closing out this chapter with the fire woman retreat, the virtual fire woman retreat of the theme being spiritual transformation, sexual initiation, and power. And I'm really thinking about as I sit with this, this place of when we become initiated, when we activate, and allow true powerful transformation, I can feel it moving in my body right now, we are brought into new lands, we are brought into something completely and totally and utterly different. And that is, that is exactly where I am right now. I know my like sweet listener right now, listening is just being like, oh, tell me the story of myself like that is what's happening right now. I know that's happening for you right now. So kind of whatever you want to speak into that, and I can kind of ask them more questions and we can get into it but those are, those are some of my, this moment that we're in I'm feeling in my own body.

Amy Jo Goddard 10:35

It is indeed a moment. It's bigger than a moment, you know, it's a, it's an emergence. It's an emergence. Yeah, I mean, so many of us have realized what wobbly ground we've been standing on. And, you know, wobbles, of course are uncomfortable and sometimes we feel like we're gonna get hurt, and like, oh, what's going to happen? And you know, when, when you kind of just flow with the wobble and you know, allow what is trying to birth itself, trying to emerge, you know, it's like the, the caterpillar and the butterfly metaphor has been used so much during this time, for a good reason, right? You know, I mean, the pain of the, of the caterpillar, you know, the imaginal cells of the caterpillar turning into the butterfly, it's painful, it's, it's painful. And, you know, we really have been in this like deep, dark cocoon, where nobody knows what is on the other side of the membrane, you know, and you know, it's like we're all going to push through this membrane in some way. And something new gets to emerge in all of our lives, even if you're not changing careers, even if you're not changing locations, or making some of those big moves that so many people are making, none of us will ever be the same. And you know, really, that's what life always is. And so I think in some way, this, this time in our lives has brought great, great relief, like it's really brought, like you know, it's brought the camera lens in to focus on this is what life is, this is what we do, you know, we, we evolve, we change, we, we fall down, we hurt ourselves, we get back up, we figure something out, we learn another little piece of our story, or of the puzzle, or of where we want to go, or what we want to experience, we make decisions about it, you know, we go in a new direction, we learn some stuff there, we pivot again, I mean, this is, this really is life but it's like life being condensed into this very focused time of, of looking very closely and very hard at how we're living. And what, what is really serving us, what is satisfying to us, what is making us unhappy? What gets to change, you know, I just think we're all in a time of making those kinds of decisions. And, you know, for me, it's been, I've been teaching for 25 years, I've been teaching my entire adult life. I've taught in every different, you know, just about every different environment that I could, every different age that I could, I've taught sexuality from, you know, first graders, literally to adults, to college students to adults. So I've done that. And it's something I've been so passionate about, I think I, I always thought, I would always do it. And and I may, I don't know, but I know that right now I'm, my soul is just longing for something else. And I want my days to look different and the way I get to spend my time, I want to be quieter. That's part of it. I want to be quieter. I talk so much. It's making me tear up, I talk just you know, you know, and that's a gift. That's one of my gifts. You know, it's my, probably my greatest gift. It's the thing I'm best at. So it's hard to, to kind of orphan the thing that you feel best at, you know, or somehow shelf it. But I'm in a time where, yeah, something else gets to emerge.

Sophia Wise One 15:06

My hand. I am just offering my hands to you, just being with you. It comes in my heart when you share that is like just gratitude like thank you. Thank you for all the work, thank you for all the talking, and thank you for the courage to let it rest, to like give it a moment and I, I can relate to that. My listeners listening to my journey of like burnout and, and my own kind of shift and my own work and not touching people's bodies and saying like I can't touch people's bodies like I know that it's like such a powerful gateway to transform not just myself and not just them but this shared world, right, like this superpower and yet to know, it's time to let it, to let all of it change, right? To let the gift have its time to like rest, and grow, and restore, and become new and to let you be new, you know, like you've earned that. And I don't mean or I don't even know what the word earned means. It's like with yourself, it's like a soulful earning, it's not an external, right, but it's like you've come to this place, you've come to this place where the next step is just the threshold. Like it just is the threshold. And I think about how, when we cross through those thresholds like the big ones in our life, like it's something about the doorways. I think our soul doorways, the image that comes to mind is like they're a shape. And we can only pass through what we like what can pass through, it has to match the shape. And there are things that we have to let go of to like pass through the portal and the true things will come with us, they'll come through behind, they'll like they'll be on the other side waiting, right. But there's something about the portal or the pathway that requires us to change the shape that we used to be. I described so many times this, this my own kind of deep dive in this emergence is like going down into the underworld growing, retrieving all these parts of myself. And then I went to go up, up to the top, up above again. And the path to the up above, I no longer fit. I was like literally too big. I went down deep into the earth healed and grew. And I didn't have a tunnel out anymore. And so I had to dig my way a new tunnel, just like I did in my kind of deep first awakening. And there's no, it's funny, there's no shortcut for that. But there certainly are things that make it like helpful, make it more efficient, make it kinder, make it sweeter. I know in my life, that's really true. What is your, what is the bomb for you these days in this process, this courageous path that you're in right now, laying these things down and saying yes to not knowing and saying yes to these new knowings like what has been a bomb for you?

Amy Jo Goddard 18:16

Creativity. Creativity. Playing piano. Anyone that's followed me knows that's been my, I just had my one year anniversary of playing piano and it's been my thing. And you know, finishing my poem, the creativity, you know, like just getting to focus more on the creativity of that. And, you know, right now, we're nearly done, and we're, we are crafting how to present it to the world. So it's a new phase of the create, the creation. And, yeah, you know, slowly figuring out what the next book will be. Have some ideas percolating. So I'm just in the percolation, you know, and, and walking, just a lot of walking. I've been living in the Southwest and walking here and just experiencing the expanse of sky. I would say it's one of my, one of my favorite things. So yeah, but it's, it's, you know, and that's just the...

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